lubuntu - new programs by default

I just added 6 new programs to the seed to cover some missing features. They will be installed by default in the next upload of the seed :
- xfce4-taskmanager : for monitoring tasks, the origin of lxtask
- parcellite : for a clipboard manager (not start on login for now)
- hardinfo : for information on the system - osmo : for managing event, calendar ...
- language-selector : for installing language packs
- software-properties-gtk : for managing sources in synatic The splash is still missing, but as plymouth was just uploaded, I prefer to wait more before adding it to the seed.

If you think the seed need other programs to be added (not replaced !), please speak now :)

For discussion on existing applications, please begin a new thread or a new page on the wiki. Please also note this :
- Only propose application which are in the archive (not PPA, official archive).

Exceptions are lxde components (like lxdm) and chromium which should be added to official repository soon.
- Prepare some arguments :) The actual policy is to keep the existing seed, so the application need to bring real and additional interesting stuff.
- Read and update previous discussion on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Applications/Process%20Documentation

lubuntu - get involved

Julien Lavergne posted ways to get involved into lubuntu on the mailing list of the project and I am reposting his suggestions here.

This is a quick summarize for people wanted to help on Lubuntu. In general, all tasks will be documented on the Subteams pages:

== Participate to the LXDE project ==
This is the most efficient way to contribute to Lubuntu. If you want a functionality, translate a package etc … you should directly work with LXDE.

== Create an artwork for Lubuntu ==
We don’t have an original artwork, and it’s an important goal for Lucid. Some works began on the LXDE forum, but there is a lots to do to create a complete set of artwork. Currently, it could be nice to have:

  • 1 wallpaper
  • 1 icon set
  • 1 GTK engine
  • 1 login manager theme (for lxdm)
  • Custom configuration for GTK theme in the session
  • 1 openbox theme
  • 1 banner for logout
  • 1 logo for the main menu
  • 1 background image for lxpanel
  • 1 cursor
  • Specific icons for lxpanel
  • 1 splash screen (for usplash or/and plymouth)

Please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/ArtworkSubTeam/Documentation for details.
If you want to work on artwork, you should contact the Ubuntu Art Team. There are a very good experience on making artwork for K/X/Ubuntu etc … It’s also important to work on the artwork, as a complete set. It’s better to submit a wallpaper + icon set + gtk engine together than separately.

IMPORTANT NOTE : We didn’t have currently decide the colors of the artwork. We should discuss and decide this on the next IRC meeting. But you can create some mockups to add them to the discussion :)

== Triage bugs on Launchpad ==
We need to manage bug reports for many packages (mostly, the LXDE core packages).
See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/HowToTriage/ for an overview of the triaging on Ubuntu.
The current packages and bugs are here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~lubuntu-packaging/+packagebugs
Most important to know is:

  • Is the bug is correctly affected?
  • Is the bug still reproductible by user in Ubuntu 9.10? By you?
  • Is there a solution/patch available on the bug? Upstream? In another distribution?

== Fix bugs / Develop features ==
If you want to work on a bug, you should affect it to you so people know you are working on it. If you want to implement a feature, or working on a patch, you should open a bug on Launchpad, so people can eventually help you. I’ll try to add a TODO list for packagers who want to help but want some mentoring or ideas (See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/SubTeams/CodingAndPackagingSubTeam for futur information).

== Testing ==
We may have some ISO to test near the Alpha 1 of Lucid, it’s a good occasion to test if it’s working, and report bugs. You don’t need to know how to code for this, just use Lubuntu and report bugs/complain about it. You can also install a command line Lucid system in VirtualBox and install lubuntu-desktop package by “sudo apt-get install –no-install-recommends lubuntu-desktop”. Another way is to test a pristine lxde session by installing the lxde package, and see if no Lubuntu specific patch cause problems in a standart LXDE session. To report bug, do ubuntu-bugs the_name_of_the_package_affected. If you don’t know, use ubuntu-bug lubuntu-meta, we’ll triage it for you :) Testing (and reporting problems) is critical, because developers can only try to fix problems if there are reported.

== Improve the Documentation ==
Our wiki ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu ) can always be improved. If you intend to do massive changes, please inform the mailing list before.

Feel free to add others tasks if you have any in mind. Some others tasks will probably appear in the futur on this mailing list or on the SubTeams pages. Also, you can ask any questions on any of those items on the mailing list.

Thanks in advance for your help :)

Default applications on Lubuntu 10.04 - Summarize of the UDS Session

a quick summarize of the session we had in UDS about the workflow for choosing default applications, and with a current proposal.

Blueprint : https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-lucid-default-applications
Complete spec : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/LubuntuLucidApplications

Current consensus was to stay with the list of applications we have for Karmic (but please read until the end of this mail :))

The general proposal for the roadmap is the following :
- Determine areas not currently covered in Karmic seed that still need to be addressed
- Discuss applications that could be replaced
- Organize a IRC meeting to stop the applications list

For problematic applications, we'll need discussions preferably with advantages/disadvantages, benchmarks (memory and CPU usage , dependencies, installed space ...). The goal is not to replace all the seed, but focus on some keys applications that can be discuss, and which have solid arguments for a replacement.

lubuntu RAM and CPU Requirements

We don't have for now the requierement needed for Lubuntu, because some components are still in developpement.

However, I done some testing on Karmic + LXDE/Lubuntu packages updated from Lucid + some adjustements, and a session start with 50-60 Mo, according to the taskmanager. So in your case, the memory could be a bit short to be confortable.

For the processor, I can't test if it's useable. But It will be a good candidate for testing Lubuntu Lucid, and I will be happy to have your feedback on it.

lubuntu 10.04 browsers

The choice of the browser is not final for lubuntu 10.04. It will be discuss during the cycle, and also during Ubuntu Developpers summit. You can see details on this 2 specifications :

- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ArmLightweightBrowser

lubuntu Lucid preparations

The real first release of lubuntu should be for Lucid (10.04), in six months. To prepare it, I began to write 3 specifications [1] about the future Lubuntu, to hold discussion about some aspects of it. I hope to be at the Ubuntu UDS [2] to work on them. Feel free to contribute to them (with constructive arguments, not troll please :))

Nothing is decided, and help in various aspects to make Lubuntu 10.04 rocking, will be very appreciate :)

[1]
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-lucid-artwork
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-lucid-default-applications
https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/lubuntu-lucid-packaging-policy

[2]
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UDS

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